Are we part of God or separate ?

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Bismillah
Are we all part of God or are we separate from God?
There are those who are on one side and those on the other.
My view is that although it sounds nice to be part of God and that everything is thus one etc that I think the other side is right. I also thought if both can be true at the same time but concluded they cannot.

So why i do I think we are separate? Apart from the obvious ( eg that I know I'm not God and so I am separate, or when we pray to God who are we praying to? Ourselves or something outside us?) , I can now present my view of unity. What does unity mean when we are separate from God?
If we believe that God is unique from all things and that He is infinite and everything else ( ie God's creatures) are finite (meaning limited) then it means that everything in totality compared to God is zero. ie nothing. Because the sum of all finite things is also finite. So all of us compared to God are nothing. And so God on his own is everything effectively. Like in maths 1/infinity is zero. And a million/infinity is also zero. A trillion is also zero etc.

So if we are nothing and God is everything then this perspective is superior to the "we are all part of God" for the following reasons:
1- It removes the ego very well. As we believe we are nothing in comparison to him. So there is no room for the ego. And removing the ego is an essential core to enter the garden of spirituality (see for example the film Awake aka "the autobiography of a guru"). Whereas if you think you are part of God there is still some residual ego there. ie You think you are important because you think you are part of the Devine.
2- If the Devine is everything and we (nothings) connect with him then how do we feel? If we see It as beautiful and loving then how will that reflect on us? It will bring love and beautify into our hearts too would it not? And we will see everything as His creation and so love and wonder at it too. Gleaning from the creation, signs about its creator, the Devine Being. We humans also become brothers and sisters from the same family (Adam and Eve) and here I'm talking at the soul level rather than the body level. We are spiritual souls residing in material bodies. The soul is the important thing I think.
So the unity comes when we become so small and tiny in our own eyes that we dissolve and see only our beautiful and amazing creator. At this moment , of no ego , we become united with the beloved and enjoy a feeling of ecstasy and euphoria which is both beautiful and pure. When our ego is melted away through acknowledging our nothingness and experiencing the pure Devine love .

And so this is how I see unity. We are separate but at the same time negligible compared to Source. And hence Source unites us into one union when we dissolve the ego away. And it seems that love and intellect are the powers that do this melting and dissolving. This the union with Source is established.

Comments welcome

Peace

A short message to my Christian brothers & sisters

To my dear Christian brethren (I'm a Sufi Muslim speaking to you)
Plz forget this business of Jesus (peace be upon him) being Son.
Just forget it plz.
There is only one god and that is the Creator. Everything else is a creature. Including Jesus. One creator and many creatures. Mary (peace be upon her) is also a creature. So plz stop this business about son.
Thankyou
Ali Twaij
Sufi

Questions from Sam

When Sam , walking on the sea shore with his mum, breathing the fresh air that nourishes the mind , asks "Mum why are we here? On this planet I mean". His mum replies: " Son we are here on this planet for a short test. After it we leave and await the results. During it we are tested to see whether we go out to seek truth, whether we do good and how deeply we find out about our creator.  This is it my son"

And she added, "The more deeply we come to know Him/It , the better and more lighted our lives and hearts will be".

"Walking on this earth and living it will become easier. And you will experience much joy. But without knowing him/it life becomes plain and repetitive. And loses its taste".

The son was quite intrigued and excited too. "But where is the creator ? How come we can't see Him?"

His mum slapped him at this point (no she didn't , only joking !). She did answer him. "Son, the creator is unlimited. So how can we see something that has no limits. That is undefined. It's a very strange and unique phenomena. That's why we believe there is only one of its kind. Because of Its uniqueness. But we recognize Its existence from the many designs and complex systems in front of us. Including those inside the bodies that our souls reside. Have you seen the amount of work an organ like your kidney does? To replicate it a whole kidney dialysis machine was created for those with weak kidneys. So how do these systems come up? Who makes them ? Who designs them? And why? That's why there are scientists today who advocate intelligent design. Because they see design. And ask where did it come from."

The questioning continues in chapter 2. What else would you like Sam to ask ?

An awake person vs a sleeping person

My definition of an awake person:
Someone who thinks for themselves, has a curious mind, is a truth seeker and is self aware.
Awake people don't all have the same beliefs. But they all are truth seeking i believe.

An asleep person:
Someone who lets others think for them. Doesn't question what they are told. Happy to go along with the crowd.

One sees, the other is blinded.

Earth is at centre of universe it seems

Amazing: Earth is at centre of universe. Universe rotates around earth it seems. Scientifically proven but current science won't allow it in. Biased. Explainion starts from min 4:20. Hard to believe i know.
Watch "002 Dr. Robert Sungenis 'Geocentrism / Geoc
https://youtu.be/I73hycfdViA

Earth at centre of universe theory film here:

http://www.theprinciplemovie.com/about/

Imagination and belief

If you can't ever imagine there is a good creator then how can you ever believe there is one. You will not be able to.
Imagination must come first.
Imagination doesn't mean you believe in it.
Nor does it mean it is true.
Just means you can see something in your mind.

Conversion with an atheist.

Atheist: " can you demonstrate to me that God exists?"
Theist:" ok so if there is a creator then there should be a creation. Do you agree?"
Atheist:" yeah i think so"
Theist: " you sure mate?"
Atheist:" em yeah"
Theist:" ok then you are the creation. And me and everything else around us.
Demonstration concluded.
Do you believe now that there is a creator?"
Atheist:" No"
Theist:"why"
Atheist:" i can't see God"
Theist:" i thought You wanted a demonstration?"
Atheist:"no i must see him also"
Theist:" ok if you saw God would you believe in him?"
Atheist:" Ofcourse"
Theist:" How do i know you wouldn't just deny it was God and say it was something else or a trick of the eye or magic etc?"
Atheist:" No no i will accept"
Theist: " Really."
Atheist:" yes"
Theist:" i don't believe you"
Atheist:" ok then"
Theist:" ok".

Where does this lead?